We've two from the identical litter, a medium/long hair torti and her brother a medium long black hair with a brown bib and slight highlights. Lol. Her brother is nearly as stubborn but somewhat more docile. He allows us keep him when she doesn’t want anyone to pick her up https://tortoisevsturtle89012.qodsblog.com/33961715/the-smart-trick-of-tortoise-vs-turtle-identification-that-nobody-is-discussing